Crypto Marketing with Ty Smith
What We Use Hubspot For
About this episode
Ty Smith, TJ Shedd, and Kylie Low walk through how Coinbound actually uses HubSpot day to day, beyond the basic definition of a CRM. They cover email marketing and list segmentation, the sales pipeline and deal tracking, linking ad spend from Google and LinkedIn to see full client lifetime value, and the social media tools including Twitter streams that let them interact with brand mentions without leaving HubSpot.
The team also gets into landing pages, forms, and workflow automation, explaining how a form submission can automatically tag a contact's industry, feed a lead score, and trigger the right email drip campaign. The overall argument is that HubSpot's value is in connecting every part of the marketing and sales process into one system, so the team can see exactly which channels and clients are worth the time and ad spend.
Key takeaways
- Use HubSpot's list segmentation to send targeted emails based on job title, industry, or website activity instead of blasting everyone the same message.
- Connect Google Ads and LinkedIn Ads to HubSpot so you can trace a contact from the specific ad they clicked all the way through to what they eventually bought.
- Track deals as cards through stages like incoming, responded, waiting for reply, and closed so the whole sales team can see who is working what.
- Set up lead scoring that adds points for page visits and form submissions so you know which contacts deserve your limited time first.
- Build workflow automations that auto-tag contacts by industry or interest based on which form or landing page they filled out.
- Use HubSpot streams to pull client and prospect Twitter activity into one feed so you can monitor brand mentions and reply without leaving the platform.
- Know HubSpot's limits, like the current lack of Twitter Ads integration and clunky Instagram posting, and pair it with other tools where needed.
Questions this episode answers
What is HubSpot used for in a crypto marketing agency?
Coinbound uses HubSpot as a central CRM to track every interaction with clients, run email marketing, manage the sales pipeline, connect ad accounts, post to social media, build landing pages and forms, and automate workflows and lead scoring.
How does HubSpot help with email marketing compared to MailChimp or Constant Contact?
HubSpot lets you send email blasts like other tools but gives stronger analytics on which emails perform well, and it comes with built in templates. You can also build segmented lists, such as crypto CEOs and founders, based on job title, industry, or website activity, so emails only go to the right people.
Can HubSpot track which ads actually lead to sales?
Yes. HubSpot connects to Google Ads and LinkedIn Ads (though not yet Twitter Ads) so you can see which contacts came from which ad and follow that contact through the entire sales cycle, including what they eventually bought. This closes the loop that ad platforms alone cannot show, since a platform like Google Ads only tracks the conversion event, not lifetime client value.
Is HubSpot good for social media management?
The team likes HubSpot's Twitter analytics and interface better than SocialPilot, but HubSpot currently has issues posting directly to Instagram, so they still use SocialPilot for that. HubSpot also has a feature called streams that works like a Twitter list, pulling client and prospect tweets into one feed you can interact with without leaving HubSpot.
What are HubSpot workflow automations used for?
On the higher priced tier (around 800 dollars a month), workflows let you trigger automatic actions based on user behavior, like tagging someone as 'crypto industry' if they fill out a form on a crypto landing page. The team also uses automated scoring, adding points for page visits or form submissions, to quickly identify the most active and valuable leads.
Full transcriptShow
Ty Smith0:00
Welcome to another episode of the Crypto Marketing Show. My name is Ty Daniel Smith and with me is TJ Shedd and Kylie Low. And today we are discussing what we use HubSpot for. So, I think first we should discuss what HubSpot is. So, TJ, what is HubSpot?
TJ Shedd0:22
I mean, just generally, it's a client relationship manager, or CRM. It's a tool that we use to pretty much organize and categorize all of our communications as a team with everybody that we interact with.
Ty Smith0:34
Yeah, it's sort of a central database for all interactions with our clients. That's a good way to put it. It does things like track website visits, so we can see what clients are on what web pages, we can tailor things to them. It has all kinds of useful applications for us. There's a sales component, there's a marketing component, there's a support, tech support kind of component.
TJ Shedd1:43
We can put in custom notes for every single person. That's one I use the most, is just when I have a conversation with somebody, write down what they said.
Ty Smith1:57
One of the main things we use it for is email marketing. So, there's a lot of email marketing tools out there. There's MailChimp and Constant Contact. HubSpot also has an email marketing feature that we find really good. So, you can send out email blasts just like any other, but the level of analytics are really, really strong for HubSpot. And you're really capable of seeing what emails are performing well. It actually gives you a lot of templates to work with.
TJ Shedd2:13
Yeah, actually HubSpot came out of being an email tracker. It originally started as just an email tracking product. I think it was called Signals at the time, and all it specifically did was show when people would open an email. Like, you could send someone an email and you'd get a notification if it was opened, when it was opened. And it grew from that into an entirely robust... I don't know if HubSpot acquired Signals or what the relationship is, but that's when I first discovered it, was as Signals, just the email tracker.
Ty Smith2:14
and then based on job title, or job function, or industry, or level of activity and interaction with the website, you can create these lists of, for example, one list we have is crypto CEOs and founders. So if we have a message that only applies to those people, we can very much customize an email that only goes to those people. And the same goes for marketing managers or all kinds of different roles and things like that. And you can do manual lists or automatic. So you can very much make sure the right email is getting to the right person.
TJ Shedd2:48
Right. Yeah, basically it's like lists are like categories. So it's just ways of sorting people and directing your communication as targeted as possible.
Ty Smith2:58
Exactly. So we also use HubSpot heavily for the sales process. So TJ, you do most of that stuff in HubSpot. So why don't you walk us through it?
TJ Shedd3:05
Yeah, so one thing that's nice about that is it comes directly from a website or a variety of different places. If anybody clicks on a form, on a landing page that says they're interested in more information, it comes directly in. And there's a specific part of HubSpot that is just designed for deals. And we use it in a board mentality where each deal is a card, and then you've got the incoming, responded, waiting for reply, sent proposal, closed, all that kind of stuff. And we use it to track it all the way through the system. You can assign different deals to different sales people. We can see who's working on what. And it pulls all the information that we've had previously with the client before a deal was made into that actual deal, as well as the same thing back and forth. It pulls all the emails in.
Ty Smith3:51
Yeah, and you can actually see, like I don't know how much you guys spend on it, but I could see every month how many leads are coming in, how much sales is done, and then it sends it to our Trello, which we use for the campaign management and stuff like that. We use a Zapier integration for that. Another cool feature is that you can link most of your ad spend accounts, so things like Google Ads and LinkedIn Ads. They don't have support for Twitter Ads, which we use a lot, but I'm confident they'll get there. So you could actually analyze every campaign that you're running through Google and LinkedIn and see which contacts were created from which ad, and sort of measure efficiency that way. Because something that those platforms lack by themselves is that you can track conversions. So for example, I might set up a conversion for a Google Ad to be, submit this form, but that's where it ends. With HubSpot, you see who's clicking on what, where they saw the ad, and then I could also track the entire life cycle of that client. What did they buy? How much did they buy? So that gives me a whole different level of insight into how our marketing budget is.
TJ Shedd5:01
Yeah, it closes the loop. It gets that back-end part of the system of like our internal system.
Ty Smith5:06
Yeah, exactly. And it brings it down in a really easy-to-read, like you're paying this much per contact, you're paying this much per client, and those clients are paying on average this much. So it makes it really, really easy to justify an ad spend, or change an ad spend based on...
TJ Shedd5:17
Like that's what I was about to say. It makes it really easy to A/B test different ads and say, okay, we ran these three campaigns for two days, this one far exceeded the results of these other two, we're going to dust the other two and put all our money behind this one campaign.
Kylie Low5:32
You're having your clients tell you what's working without them having to tell you what's working.
Ty Smith5:37
Exactly. Yeah, because again, Google Ads, for example, will track conversions, whatever you set conversions to be, but it doesn't necessarily go beyond that. So it's not a full picture. Now you get the full picture. We also use it, we're starting to use it for social media posting. It's a feature that is on there that is pretty good, but we have other software that we're kind of dabbling in. Kylie, why don't you tell us a little bit about the social media component of HubSpot?
Kylie Low6:02
I like HubSpot's social media abilities. If it weren't for Instagram, I would probably prefer it over SocialPilot.
Ty Smith6:10
But that's an Instagram/Facebook API issue.
Kylie Low6:13
Right, but at the same time, I can still put an Instagram account into SocialPilot and post to Instagram. So that's a problem that I have with HubSpot. For Twitter, it's amazing because you can literally see all the analytics, and it offers a little bit more. I like the interface better than SocialPilot. SocialPilot seems clunky. It kind of reminds me a little bit of Craigslist in a way. Like, yeah, I'm not a fan of the look. I like the look of HubSpot's a lot better. My only complaint is Instagram, but hopefully they'll fix it. Hopefully you'll fix it, HubSpot, @HubSpot.
Ty Smith6:53
I actually spoke to their support about that. That was funny. Not even kidding. I'm a complainer. I'm very adamant about HubSpot, but I'll also complain when they're not doing their job correctly. Another cool feature of it is streams. So like we said, there's a CRM component to HubSpot, so you can put in all kinds of data: the first name, email, whatever the company is they work for. You can put in social media handles, and then based on that, you could actually create what they call streams, which is basically like a Twitter list. So it's a list of all these Twitter accounts that will populate their feed into one consolidated feed, and then you could go just go down the list, and it's super easy to interact.
Kylie Low7:28
Interact from HubSpot.
Ty Smith7:30
From HubSpot without even leaving. And we have tons of brands and tons of Twitter accounts, not only for ourselves, but for our clients. So now we could very easily stay on top of brand mentions on Twitter. It's just a lot easier way to lead nurture and stay in contact with people through Twitter.
TJ Shedd7:50
That's cool. I didn't even realize that.
Ty Smith7:52
Yeah, yeah, no, it's something we're playing around with lately. It's cool.
Kylie Low7:55
Because we just got the social media component not too long ago, too. So, yeah.
Ty Smith8:01
Super exciting. Another cool piece, this one we're really not using much, I started playing around with it, is you can create landing pages, which is cool. So what a landing page basically is, is it's a web page that you land on from a certain campaign or a certain whatever, some kind of prompt. So in HubSpot, you can create custom landing pages for each campaign, for example, and there's a whole sort of web design feature to it that you can customize your web page however you want. Maybe it's to get people to sign up for your newsletter, or to, for example, we have landing pages that are specifically to people that are interested in influencer marketing. So the only way people will see that, it's not something that we actually have on our normal web page, it's something that someone might click on from social media, and you can customize it, you can do all kinds of cool like A/B testing, and customize the call to actions. And again, all of it's already integrated with HubSpot, so as soon as someone submits a form or clicks on a button or anything like that, we are able to see that's what this person's interested in. And then we're able to add, again, add to those segmented lists what they're interested in and then tailor our whole interaction with them around that.
TJ Shedd8:34
Yeah, that's awesome.
Ty Smith8:35
Yeah. So tied into that is forms, which, the forms is great on landing pages, but you don't have to do it on landing pages. We have a lot of forms on our own website.
Kylie Low8:46
I love forms.
Ty Smith8:47
Yeah, I like forms too, because it takes all the information, again, and immediately puts it into your CRM. And from that, we have all kinds of crazy workflow automations that will again segment them and then put them on certain email drip campaigns.
TJ Shedd9:01
And a form is basically just like a questionnaire or a template.
Ty Smith9:04
Yeah, so the classic example is a contact form. So at the bottom of our homepage, it says, if you have questions, put your first name, last name, whatever company you work for, stuff like that. And then that again ties into the sales component, which you'll get a notification, this person's interested in this, and then it makes managing the whole interaction with the client way easier.
TJ Shedd9:24
For sure.
Ty Smith9:25
And on that same note of workflow automation is you can create, only in the expensive tier, which I think starts at 800 per month, I'm not sure, you can create all kinds of crazy workflow automations. So again, if someone does X, you can make HubSpot do Y. So let's say someone submits a certain form. So we do, we have clients that are in a bunch of different industries, but mainly crypto and cannabis. So depending on the form that I've created, if it's something that only appears on a crypto landing page or a crypto website page on our site, it will automatically add the crypto industry tag to them. And all that stuff was done manually before, and it's just a huge time saver. We also use it for scoring. So every time someone visits a web page, we'll increase the activity, the monthly activity score by one. If they submit a form, increase it by five, and that way, it's super easy to look at our CRM and see who's the most worthwhile client to go after if we have limited time or something like that.
TJ Shedd10:26
Which we do.
Ty Smith10:27
Which we do, which everyone does.
TJ Shedd10:29
Everybody does, yeah, literally, yeah.
Ty Smith10:31
Yeah, so that basically is the gist of what we use HubSpot for. We use it for a whole lot of things way beyond what we're able to touch on in this.
TJ Shedd10:39
And there's a lot of other things you could use it for, too. Like you said, that's just...
Ty Smith10:41
You can host your blog on HubSpot.
TJ Shedd10:43
Right, those are just the high points of some of the stuff we use it for, but it's really, it's a really almost endless tool of the applications and different ways and different things you can do with it.
Ty Smith10:53
Yeah. So in closing, I guess we'll wrap it up. We have a Slack channel that we have a dedicated channel to answer any marketing questions, so that includes HubSpot questions if you want to explore it. We're happy to walk you through the process of getting onboarded and point you in the right direction of what you should be utilizing it for. And be sure to rate, review, and recommend the podcast if you found this valuable, and follow us on Twitter. I am...
TJ Shedd11:18
Even if you didn't.
Ty Smith11:19
Even if you didn't, do it anyway.
TJ Shedd11:21
But only if it's a good review.
Ty Smith11:23
Yeah, five-star review, yeah. Five stars only.
Kylie Low11:25
Five stars.
Ty Smith11:26
Just like Uber, five star or nothing.
Kylie Low11:28
We're all first class here.
Ty Smith11:30
Yeah. And follow us on Twitter. I am @TyDanielSmith, Coinbound is @Coinbound_io, TJ, you are @YoungDumbCrypto, and Kylie is @CryptoKylie. That will be all for today. Thank you guys for joining us, and we will catch you next time.
Kylie Low11:41
Bye.

